Surely this was not a genuine offer??
In late January, with his mercenary forces dying by the thousands in a fight for the ruined city of Bakhmut, Wagner Group owner Yevgeniy Prigozhin made Ukraine an extraordinary offer.
Prigozhin said that if Ukraineâs commanders withdrew their soldiers from the area around Bakhmut, he would give Kyiv information on Russian troop positions, which Ukraine could use to attack them. Prigozhin conveyed the proposal to his contacts in Ukraineâs military intelligence directorate, with whom he has maintained secret communications during the course of the war, according to previously unreported U.S. intelligence documents leaked on the group-chat platform Discord
I have a feeling this wonât age well:
oof thatâs cheeky.
meanwhile family guy delivers
Seeing lots of posts that Russia targeting the Patriot missiles in Kyiv again and the defense fired 20+ missiles back. Seems pretty good for Ukraine if every time they get a new Patriot missile battery it just becomes a magnet for Russian attention vs whatever else they would have been attacking if wasnt there
if ru managed to even scratch one patriot, theyâd throw a new parade and declared victory
If they making it their main interest to target I assume it will get destroyed? But obviously NATO got way more GDP if just becomes a question who willing to spend more money on missiles
I thought the picture was Elizabeth, NJ, circa 1978.
tonight ru tried to fire 18 rockets at kyiv in an attempt to overwhelm the anti-air defenses, including 6 khinzhals. patriot/iris shot down all of them.
Russia claims to have destroyed the Patriot system. Ukraine claims to have shot down all missiles.
If Patriot is really capable of shooting down six Mach 10 missiles in quick succession that is quite impressive.
Also, if a Patriot battery can be operated from outside the blast radius of one of those missiles, trading one Patriot battery for 6 of Russiaâs highest tech missiles doesnât seem like a bad trade.
Arenât the launchers kinda dispersed anyway? So if one the launchers got destroyed doesnât necessarily mean the unit wonât be helpful anymore?
A Patriot system costs about 1 billion. Itâs not even a good trade missile for missile at 4 million a pop.
Not sure could necessarily just consider it that way, NATO has way more GDP so proportionally could be more costly to Russia to use up hypersonic missile capacity even if absolute dollar terms the patriots more expensive
i think counting long-term expenses in terms of rockets and air defenses is not useful during an active counteroffensive phase, but if we were to talk prospects for the war, it would obviously be very relevant.
Quote from NYT seems promising
Two U.S. officials confirmed that a Patriot system had been damaged in the attack but added that the Patriot remained operational against all threats.
Question for the Ukrainian Air Force:
How was the Patriot system damaged when you claimed all missiles were shot down?