Depends on who is writing the history.
Imagine still stanning for the deaths of 30-40k people using this tired âthe other side is worse and says bad stuffâ language lol
Quoting the article from this post again:
It is easy when looking backward to remember the fight for a good cause as pure and untainted, even if it did not seem so at the time. In the same way, we now remember the Vietnam War as an American tragedy. The students at Columbia University who protested it seem, in retrospect, to have been right. But our memories elide some of their more outrĂŠ tactics. A list of popular chants employed by antiwar protesters at a time when thousands of American soldiers were dying each year fighting in the war included things like âOne sideâs right, one sideâs wrong, Weâre on the side of the Viet Cong!â and âSave Hanoi, Lose Saigon, Victory to the Viet Cong!â
Zero question who CN would have supported back then
This is lazy and dishonest.
This is also lazy and dishonest
Come onâŚ. There can be parallels to a historical situation without painting both as black and white identical.
Neither lazy or dishonest. The kids you oppose are incensed about the moral failure of the supposed adults in charge to allow the senseless murder of Palestinian civilians, and your response to that is to nitpick about slogans and question their cause. Youâve made it extremely clear what your values are here.
Goofy last time I checked I donât support Israel glassing Palestine or even a true large scale invasion. Iâm also allowed to think that these college protests have some bad people and ideas in them, and that arguing things like âJews back to Europeâ is racist bullshit.
Buddy, youâre saying quite a lot more than that when you pick out the worst elements of a large & diverse group of protesters to question if the entire movement will be on the right side of history or not. Bigly telling on yourself!
Itâs not a fringe element of the group to say that they support Hamas. It just isnât. Sorry. Supporting hamas is stupid and harmful to the peace process.
It is, in fact, possible to have strongly negative views of Hamas and Israelâs current government.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha ok
And Bibi is likely exploiting this dynamic. He knows Biden canât turn completely against him, and he knows Trump will totally back him on anything and everything. So itâs in his best interest to put Biden in the worst situation possible and maximize his chances of getting Trump.
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If you say so.
I mean this actually was productive and helped get to the core of your argument: that The College Kids Support Hamas. I think thatâs self-evidently ludicrous and am perfectly comfortable with readers of this thread evaluating your arguments based on whether they do or donât agree with your premises.
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Have you, you know, actually read or listened to any of the groups running these protests?
ikes literally played the ânice kids you got there, sure would be a shame if someone dropped a bomb on themâ card yesterday, nothing goofy has said is dishonest here at all
I think everyone should take it down a notch here. This is a complex topic. It is not black and white. There are not easy good guys or bad guys. I think everyone is posting in good faith, and I donât think anyone deserves the insinuation that they are not.
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https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1785397144515469402
Police are attacking encampments at schools across the US but itâs notable when stuff like this happens to faculty. Separately:
this seems like an invitation to the ACLU for a lawsuit
â1Aâ (works for FIRE) and âfreespeechâ (famous disastrous mouthpiece for the government) in profile names
Man, New York is such a garbage city these days. Canât keep the libraries open, the cops are absolutely nuts.