Cold as Ice, Hot Blooded, or Double Vision?
Edit: Just play them on an infinite loop.
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Cuz I’m hot blooded, check it and see, I got a fever of a hundred and three
Although you’re right I have been cold as ice during this as well
Yeah feels like the historical definition of a lie wouldn’t encompass this but I feel like that shows maybe the definition should be based entirely on if someone intends to deceive and leave the objective truth out of definition entirely
This reminds me of the debate about what happens when you put an airplane on a treadmill that speeds up against the direction of the airplane at a rate that is directly proportional to the forward momentum of the plane.
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I could probably talk myself into it. If someone is trying to convince you of something in good faith and in doing so says things that aren’t true but they think are true, it should be possible to correct them.
However, if someone is trying to deceive you and says things things the same thing you won’t be able to correct them.
While both are “lying,” I think the 2nd case is worse because they continue to push their false information instead of being able to accept the truth. However, the first situation can turn into the second pretty quickly if you can’t correct the person making the argument, that changes them from a good faith mistake to a bad faith lier pretty quickly.
How is being wrong about something “lying?” People are wrong about things all the time, that doesn’t make them liars. Lying requires intent.
In the context of the previous comments I thought it had also been considered lying when we started with “saying something that isn’t true.” I agree with you, I think intent is at least as important as the actual facts being presented.
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Is higher ed ready for a serious conversation about whether or not it’s ok for a University chancellor to be making porn as a side project?
“In recent days, we learned of specific conduct by Dr. Gow that has subjected the university to significant reputational harm,” UW System President Jay Rothman said. “His actions were abhorrent.”
“We are alarmed, and disgusted, by his actions, which were wholly and undeniably inconsistent with his role as chancellor,” she said.
Sounds like, no 
Fuck rigors suck
Enraging
there’s no way I’m going to be able to read that without going full michael douglas falling down mode
Mentally filing this for deployment in the next “is religion actually good or bad, on balance” argument.
There needs to be a new law: if you commit fraud or oversee a company that commits fraud as a core function of its business, and that fraud leads to deaths that a normal person would see as likely/possible/legalese this however you need to, when convicted you do not get a slap on the wrist and a fine, you do not go to Club Fed, you go to Pine Oil Heaven.
Also we need a department of the FBI that operates on commission for bringing down corporate criminals. 25% of all seized funds go directly to the agents on the case. Let’s motivate some smart people to take down some big time white collar criminals.
We could also, like, hold people accountable to pay their court-ordered debts in a timely fashion.
When it went to trial in 2004, jurors unanimously held Beers liable for fraud and unjust enrichment. He and Benevolent Health Systems were ordered to pay $9.6 million in damages to the Barberton Rescue Mission. Hawthorn was also hit with a $4.6 million judgment.
Hawthorn died in 2012 without ever paying. Beers dodged the judgment for almost 20 years but negotiated a new settlement with the charity, paying it $210,000 early last year.
$210K out of $14.2 million is 1.5%. And I rounded up.
Guillotines
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Fucking pidgin guy got them an exemption. In fairness, he probably had no idea what he was doing, he was 77 years old and a few years away from tweeting about lost and dead pidgins. On the other hand, he’s 90 fucking years old and still in the Senate.
An even bigger coup came in 2010 with the passage of the Affordable Care Act. The act required that all Americans carry health insurance — a provision called the individual mandate — or face a fine. But with help from Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, a conservative lobbyist working for the Alliance managed to slip in an exemption, which gave anyone who belonged to a health care sharing ministry a pass on the mandate.
Beers and Fabris also traveled to pitch the ministry to… conservative groups like the Conservative Political Action Coalition, or CPAC.
Liberty spent more than $200,000 a year between 2017 and 2021 to be a top sponsor at CPAC, vaulting the sharing ministry and its chief executive to the main stage of the high profile conservative political event. Bellis was given a prime speaking slot in 2018, following Fox News host Laura Ingraham.
At the next year’s conference, then-President Donald Trump famously hugged a U.S. flag as he took the stage for his keynote address, with a large Liberty logo to his right.
Please for the love of playing hardball, paint this as Republican’s healthcare plan when Trump starts talking about repealing Obamacare and replacing it with something better he can’t quite name yet. They were a top sponsor at CPAC with a speaking slot, and their logo was all over the stage when Trump spoke. Easy game.
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