Middle Eastern Conflagration, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Iran

Maybe the US is pissed they struck inside Iran and was trying to get them not to, so went ahead and leaked it?

For what strategic benefit? Any escalation is extremely bad for the US right now, and especially bad for the Biden administration.

Seems a pretty academic discussion, it’s not like Iran doesn’t know what happened. And they can lie to their population just as well regardless of if there some news articles of anonymous US remarks IMHO

Everyone already knew who did it, it was just a way for the US to discreetly express displeasure with Israel’s decision without condemning it outright. Also makes it clear the US wasn’t involved.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1781451386162487493?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1781452079174754717?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

The tweet above:
https://x.com/andrewjbates46/status/1784954583791399124

Quoting here because news about a hostage deal offer seems more appropriate for this thread. I did see this article a few days ago:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/

Hostage negotiations make a lot more sense when you realize that Netanyahu cares significantly more about their effect on his political career than whether they make it home or not.

LOL at thinking that “We’ll release the hostages if you go away and pretend Oct. 7th never happened” is negotiating in good faith.

Uh, neither is pretending that the senseless murder of children is a bargaining chip when the stated goal is genocide.

Wait that’s hamas. Hamas stated goal is genocide and they just murdered a bunch of kids

So how many kids does Israel get to murder in return? 10x? 100x?

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AFAIK the only group in real positions of power here with an explicit genocidal goal is Hamas. Maybe if Hamas gave a flying shit about their children they wouldn’t throw a pogrom and then hide behind them things would be better.

I mean, that’s an Israeli guy who dedicated himself to bringing hostages home you’re LOLing at, but okay. Isn’t it pretty LOL to assume Israel is negotiating in good faith here? (as that is what started this discussion)

Just fyi, shooting kids because Hamas is hiding behind them is still a war crime, even if you pinky swear that Hamas made you by committing the war crime of hiding behind them in the first place.

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I can’t imagine sitting here in April 2024 and trying to argue this isn’t a genocide in the face of the full body of evidence. Like Hamas having genocidal goals and committing a terror attack should not give Israel carte blanche to carry out a genocide on the Palestinians, just the same as Israel doing that doesn’t make it ok for Hamas to carry out terror attacks or promote genocide.

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It’s difficult to take you seriously when you clearly prioritize Palestinian life over Israeli life.

I don’t, but your projection is pretty telling here. It’s not difficult to tell how you could so easily arrive at the conclusion that others must value Palestinian and Israeli lives differently just like you do.

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If Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza then Hamas is trying and just failing to execute it.

Palestinians have been offered real peace terms multiple times throughout history. Israel has made very real peace with Arab nations and are even allies now with Jordan and Egypt. Israel has proven they are a reliable peace partner and have offered real ass peace conditions.

The barrier to peace here long term is Hamas, and before that, the PA. Once the governments representing Palestinians care more about their children than murdering Jews, there will be real peace… and not a moment before

I guess it’s simple to determine good vs. evil by doing a body count, without having to get involved with all of the messy human factors like sadness, revenge, terror for terror’s sake, negotiation, prior history, broken agreements, etc.

Sure, call it projection…it’s not like you’ve already posted thousands of words on the subject.

Imagine reading a post, in April 2024, that wasn’t written by a child, that purports to document the obstacles to peace without the word “settlements” appearing once