I don’t think that defending genocide in good faith makes it any better, nor do I think that we should give people room to comfortably espouse their pro-genocide views here.
There is a shit-ton of room for opinions on this complex topic that fall short of defending a genocide, and I don’t think anyone here has argued anything pro-Hamas or anti-Israel existing, and if they did I’m sure they’d be met with a ton of harsh pushback. I don’t think the opposite point of view (genocide against Palestinians is defensible) should find comfort, either.
Again, have you actually read the shit coming out of these people? Because the hard left position on this defines Israelis as white supremacist colonizers and argues that you shouldn’t criticize the violent response from the oppressed to those actions.
The Israelis have offered very real two state solutions and have made peace with other major Arab countries and followed through with that peace. Palestinians declined that, because their leadership has never cared about a long term peace more than the destruction of Israel.
I’m primarily talking about this forum and even in the larger world I think a lot of this is social media fault. Like who the fuck cares if some small percent of college kids protesting say some super terrible stuff? IMHO it’s completely not noteworthy from a national news standpoint but social media has tricked us into thinking it’s important what any random person thinks about things
(of course, we’re ignoring for the moment the fact that some unelected hamas government rejected whatever offer is never going to get you to a justification for the war crimes)
Other groups with just as much beef with Israel have made peace. Iran and other outside players do not want stability and want to strain the alliance of Israel with powers that oppose their influence.
It’s also not being used as justification for a war crime. Again, if yall had a better argument you wouldn’t continuously end up in that fake shit.
We can all see the sickening sleight of hand you are pulling here to justify your position. You’re trying to argue that Palestinians brought this on themselves by electing Hamas. It’s transparent BS. There was one fucked up election forced on them by a foreign power that installed Hamas nearly two decades ago with a plurality of the vote and then Hamas killed everyone that opposed them.
So you’re cool with Bibi’s genocide regardless of what percentage of the population in, I assume you mean Gaza not the West Bank, supports Hamas?
I know, I know, you’re not calling it a genocide. But the UN’s independent expert, Amnesty International, and the International Court of Justice are, and that’s good enough for me.
