Has anyone reputable done a Newsom Trump poll? Would the Dems dare to do an internal one? Am I crazy for thinking Newsom would do really well in that matchup?
Why? Everyone says this, but I donāt get it. She has almost no relevant experience.
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Agree. I also feel this way about Gavin Newsom.
I guess itās cool that heās in his 50s, but heās never come off as genuine to me. Plus thereās the whole Kimberly Guilfoyle thing.
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Yeah, and the French Laundry. It may have been on UP, but @skydiver8 pointed out he was vetoing CA bills that had passed unanimously. To me, the only reason that would happen would be that you could say in a future campaign that you did that.
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Two completely different situations, imo. Newsom is at least a Governor of a big state and has legit applicable experience. There might be other reasons not to vote for him, but he has the resume.
Michelle seems smart, nice, and not evil, but she doesnāt have that. Obviously itās not necessary (e.g. Trump), but it seems like a reasonable expectation that a candidate have significant related experience.
Definitely agree that they are different.
The only similarity is that a lot of people really want them to run for president, and I donāt see why.
I mean, I want someone other than Biden to run, and at this point the only realistic alternatives are Kamala (no thanks) and Newsom (better than the alternatives).
My top choices would be, in no particular order, Whitmer, Shapiro, Warnock. But they just donāt seem likely. Michelle Obama I donāt think is likely at all, but if youāre giving me a choice between her and Joe Biden, Iāll take her.
At this point thereās like a 90% chance itās Biden, and the rest of the equity probably goes like 7% Newsom 3% Kamala or something like that.
Gavin is pretty easy to understand why. Heās young compared to these fools. Has the resume as Governor of the biggest state. Does well on camera and polished enough that he would easily handle Orange Man in a debate. Heās also male which avoids the misogyny vote. And heās solid on all of the establishment Dem positions (except for those recent vetos, I guess). Yeah, he has some baggage, but he checks a lot of the boxes.
Itās really not that hard. Run a young good looking guy who can talk. Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
Gavin would win in a landslide and will in 2028 if we still have a democracy.
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This makes her better than almost every candidate ever. Someone with these qualities also having been First Lady for 8 years and seeing the inner workings of the White House is more than enough relevant experience. And lol at even talking about experience when fucking Donald Trump had the job. All that matters now is winning. Have Joe drop out so Taylor Swift can run, who cares? Just win
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Hey, Biden is running as an 81-year old in 2024. Guess whoās turning 81 in 2028?
Itās her turn again! 
Well, thereās one prominent Democrat I wouldnāt take over Joe Biden this year.
I have still got Andy Beshear as a top level presidential nominee in 2028 if still have a democracy
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I think the sitting president with 80% in party approval rating with multiple big policy wins should be the nominee
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And 53% of Democrats say someone else would have a better chance.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/politics/cnn-poll-trump-biden-election-2024/index.html
Cool, but theyāre ludicrously wrong.
More of this please
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1756721310489539060?s=20
Much like the economy stuff, simply being polite and expecting things to be noticed is dumb. Biden, and democrats, need to aggressively and repeatedly make their points over a period of months to shift the narrative into their favor.
Uhhh going through a primary would be a massive waste of resources that would have divided the party with minimal return on investment and significant risk the new person would fuck up. Itās not a slam dunk at all, and the primary money can now be spent against republicans
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Whew thank god we dodged that bullet!