Elon Musk: Making Crap Cars since 2003

How are they not also getting sued by investors? There’s got to be a reasonably strong case for stock price manipulation, misleading investors, etc.

I’m pretty sure he is getting sued related to his statements about taking Tesla privat,e by investors.

A Verge/New York Magazine co-production:

It has an “Elon net-worth-o-meter” that drops by over 50% as you read from start to finish :vince:

Nothing too wild in here but some of the anecdotes are pretty funny:

A debate broke out in the company’s Slack channels. Luke Simon didn’t like the idea of bringing engineers back. Then he did an about-face, angling to bring four recently fired workers onto his team, but not without reservations he aired on Slack. “This is going to be the challenge,” he wrote. “The engineers I am bringing back are weak, lazy, unmotivated, and they may even be against an Elon Twitter. They were cut for a reason.”

lol what a swell guy to work with. Also some great leopards-eating-faces content:

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bahahahaha

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Incredible

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Who do I see about site feature requests?

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You’re never going to believe this. King Douche did insider trading. Nothing will happen.

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So one thing that is confusing to me, is OpenAI truly a nonprofit in that Musk and the other initial “donors” can’t ever get rich off it? Because despite all his failures ChatGPT seems to have the the potential to be the biggest new thing in tech since social media, like they could be to AI what Google search is to the Internet.

Is there an scenario where Twitter goes bankrupt, Tesla’s value drops to that of Toyota and Musk finds a way to sell an interest in “nonprofit” OpenAI for billions?

Like, for example, could they create a second company which is for profit and has access to all of ChatGPTs data?

I didn’t think this was illegal for CEOs (because lol), but only for plebes?

Theyre supposedly only allowed to trade within certain time windows and consistent with a pre-approved plan.

Man, 8 years ago I was really excited to have self-driving in the next 15 years or so (from then), and now I’m convinced we won’t see it in my lifetime.

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I will never ever use a driving assist feature on a vehicle. I was not this way a few years ago. Good job elon setting back public confidence in tech that has the potential to save millions of lives a year.

Not true, there’s a reasonable chance the SEC fines him like a million dollars.

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“This should be of great interest to the SEC,” said James Cox, a securities-law professor at Duke University who has testified before Congress about insider trading

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I can’t decide what’s doing more work, “should” or “great.”

Hopefully someone non-elon will change your mind at some point. I also think its important to make a distinction between driver assist and “full self driving”. Tesla Autopilot, or driver assist, is phenomenal. The full self driving is nowhere near ready for public use though. Two very, very different things.

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Some features are definitely useful. I miss having adaptive cruise control which was on my last car, which slows the car down below your desired cruise speed if required to maintain distance behind a car in front of you. It always worked great, but even if for some reason it didn’t, you’re still steering so you’re paying attention & can quickly take over if needed. It made being in traffic (where stakes are lower at slow speeds, and you’d otherwise constantly be braking & accelerating yourself) a lot more tolerable in particular.

What does “autopilot” do?

Personally I’m completely onboard with autonomous driving once it’s designed and developed to be used, but until then I don’t even use cruise control. I want to be fully alert/controlling the driving situation at all times in case something unexpected happens.

Now things like back up cameras, blind spot alerts, automatic emergency braking are all great in my mind because they aren’t going to lull you into being half asleep or distracted.

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my experience with the tech has not been great.

I drive a two seater with a huge blindspot. my driver assist will beep when I turn on my blinker and there’s a car anywhere near the lane I’m merging into.

however, it makes mistakes at just a low enough frequency that you become overly reliant on the tech and less reliant of your own human senses, and the times it messes up you get in a crash. guess how many crashes I’ve been in because of that? 1. guess how many crashes I’ve been in in 20+ years of driving? just this 1.

pass. humans will grow to trust the tech too much and it’ll cause more horrible accidents than fewer.

maybe we live in some dystopia where the net accidents will be lower because most accidents with fatalities involve alcohol and even the worst ai assisted driving will be better than none with that kind of a driver, but I dunno, still seems 20+ years away.